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Jun 28 2008

059 – Mama Told Me Not To Go To Spain

recorded 26 Jun 2008

With minor apologies to Three Dog Night for the title, this episode of With A Voice Like This was all about:

4-AM update [00:01:27]
There was a lot to talk about here. Where the website is at, a new way of working up arrangements for the group, starting with the song Mama Told Me Not to Come and some of the fun things that happened with that. We also had a good talk about where we’re heading and what our focus is and I got the opportunity to show them how video streaming works on the web briefly.

Spain’s Digital Canon [00:17:00]
Yes, this is a further discussion about the new anti-piracy tax that Spain is instituting on July 1. It’s more in depth looking at possible reasons for Spain implementing it and what seems to be some of the pitfalls of the tax itself. I also got some feedback regarding Canada’s anti-piracy tariff. There are some interesting thoughts there. I’d love to hear some of your thoughts on what was said.

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Note: The day after I recorded this show, Gerd Leonhard released a post with video about the future of copyright. It’s very much worth a look and it’s nice to see that there are people out there who see that Copyrights still have their place, in a new form of course, but not throwing out all the protections with new technology. Another thing I think that the Copyrights would be useful for is a transistion framework, at least as they apply here in the U.S. Ah, what I wouldn’t give to have Gerd Leonhard on the show, I’d have a lot of things to ask and say.

Written by With A Voice Like This · Categorized: Internet, Marketing, Show · Tagged: arrangement, digital canon, Spain, three dog night

Jun 24 2008

Who Do You Want To Pay For Your Music?

Well, it’s happened. Spain has announced that beginning July 1, it’s instituting a special anti-piracy tax called the Digital Canon [UPDATE: Article referenceing this no longer exists online] , according to an article on Billboard.biz. It puts a tax on gadgets that can copy, record or store sounds and images. Yes, I said store too.

Sounds like a new spin on the old sin tax. Except, with the standard things a sin tax applies to, you actually have to participate in the sin, e.g. gambling, smoking or consuming alcohol. This is more like saying “We’re instituting an anti-stabbing tax on all kitchenware and cutlery” (don’t worry, I’m sure spoons would have the smallest tax in that scenario). The tool has the capability, so you are taxed whether or not you use, or even intend to use it for that illicit purpose.

Now based on the article, all the monies collected are given to Artists’ Rights Organizations for distribution to the creators of the art as compensation for money lost from pirated works. There is no provision for how the money is to be distributed, it’s just given to the Rights Organizations. How would you decide to distribute the money? You’re getting a flat fee based on tools without any tracking what works are being pirated or used or anything. Yeah, let’s just leave it up to the old way of doing things, I’m sure that’s fair. It’s sounds like most of Spain feels that way…Or not.

But don’t worry about it,  that’s Spain and not here. That could never happen here. An under informed government is never forced to take carte blanche on an almost out of control situation based on special interest groups’ input. No, not here.

So, what do you think? Does any of this matter? If we’re going to be charged on the Internet, and all indicators point that way, is this how it should work? Is it important that the creators of the art be protected and compensated for their works?

Who do you want to pay for your music?

Update: It’s been brought to my attention that Canada has an anti-piracy tax on recordable media (e.g. CDs DVDs) and did have a separate tariff on mp3 players (e.g. iPods) that has since been revoked/repealed. I haven’t found creditable sources for this info, are there any Canadians who could shed some extra light on this?

Written by With A Voice Like This · Categorized: Internet, Monetizing, News · Tagged: anit-pirating tax, art, compensation, digital canon, music, PROs, rights, Spain, works

Jun 23 2008

058 – My View – Music And The Internet Part 2: The Implementation

This episode of With A Voice Like This is the conclusion of how I’d like to see things work in regard to music and the Internet and distribution of both responsibilities and money.

  • Some quick clarifications from statements made last show.
  • A brief recap of Episode 057‘s (Part 1) major points

Music and the Internet is a Virtual Venue

  • Performers perform (Streaming)
  • Consumers pay (e.g. cover charge, all inclusive charge)
  • Consumers can also buy recordings and other merchandise above entrance fees
  • Venues (ISPs,  applications) are responsible for reporting and payment

Database

  • With new code, all streams, downloads, etc. are tracked and put in a database (Who holds the DB TBD)
  • No more sampling needed, just a direct pull of tracks from the database

Collecting

  • Performance Rights Organizations (PRO) could still collect, but pay based on actual numbers, not samplings
  • No PRO could collect for non-members and keep money if the performers either don’t join, can’t be found or don’t claim their money
  • Artists, Authors, Lyricists and Publishers responsibility is to secure a code so they are credited and paid for their works or not paid by their choice.
  • Any music without the code is flagged in database and action taken (example of software recognition at EveryZing.com [EDIT: 12-28-12 – EveryZing.com is no longer a valid website])

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The Down side

This discussion is an overly simplistic layout of a very complex idea. Currently the Orphan Works Act almost passed in Congress and it seems very similar to what I’ve outlined here. You can hear it discussed at great length on Webcomics Weekly #38 from a visual artist’s point of view and its major weaknesses. I feel I’ve taken some of the things into account that were ignored in the Orphan Works Act and although not exactly the same, the pitfalls could be very similar.

On A Lighter Note

Here are examples of some voiceover work I had just recently done.

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Written by With A Voice Like This · Categorized: Internet, Method, Regulation, Show · Tagged: artists, authors.publishers, composers, downloads, Internet, ISP, music, PRO, responsibilities, streaming.mp3, transcription

Jun 13 2008

057 – My View – Music And The Internet Part 1: The Mechanism

A friend asked me in the aftershow of the Is This The Rights Thing To Do? series of episodes (047, 048 & 049) How I would like to see things happen with music rights and the Internet, so here it is, or at least Part 1.

At Any Rate
This week Warner records pulled out of its deal with Last.fm because the money wasn’t good enough. See Gerd Leonhard’s take on the situation.

Music on the Internet is Virtual Inventory

  • The three types of inventory
  • Tracking inventory

Tracking Mechanism (code) for the inventory

  • The 4 (or more) pieces of information the code holds
  • Where the code resides
  • Existing tracking capabilities
  • No more sampling in place of actual tracking
  • Retrofit back to songs with copyright of 1923 or later
  • Must be in place by 2018

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Next Week
Next week will be the second part of this discussion Music and the Internet Part 2: The Implementation, where I talk about the roles of the Artist, ISPs, PROs and more in implementing this mechanism. Join me Live at 7:00pm CT on Thursday, June 19 or call in your Comments From the Podcast Gallery to 630.492.0487.

Listener’s Choice

This episode’s choice comes from Kim Fenolio, and it’s Summertime by Brother Love.

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Written by With A Voice Like This · Categorized: Internet, Method, Monetizing, News, Show · Tagged: At Any Rate, copyrights, Download, Internet, music, public domain, Streaming music, tracking

Jun 10 2008

And on the Fifth Day…

I finally got around to writing about last Thursday’s Tweetup in Geneva, IL. We were less than a quarter of a mile away from a section of town that they used to film part of the movie Road to Perdition with Tom Hanks.

Now this was my first Tweetup, so I only knew one person prior to the meetup. I wouldn’t have even known about it if it weren’t for Wendy setting it up and going the extra step of finding me through TwitterLocal and inviting me, among others. Anyway, Kim told me I was very high energy (I think that’s a kind way of saying I was talking the whole time). So I’m going to just give you a quick sentence or two about everyone that was there from my perspective so you see how much fun these things are.

(l - r) Wendy, Derek, Brad, Barbara and Jerome

(l – r) Wendy, Derek, Brad, Barbara and Jerome

Wendy is a great host and one of those people who is comfortable in any situation, whether it’s a business suit or jeans. She also wrote about the tweetup and has great pictures in this post [NOTE: this blog has since changed hands and although the article is the same, the authorship is attributed to Kelly McCausey, who was not in attendance that night].

Derek has three blogs, two of which update daily and the third weekly. We talked about consistency with the blogs and its hurdles and I have to I was impressed with his.

I didn’t get to spend a lot of time with Brad, but I did find out that we live near each other, so there’s a good chance that we’ll run into each other at future tweetups so I’ll have another chance or two.

Barbara and I have a mutual friend, which lead us to discuss a lot of music and performance and its role in our lives and the mountains of Montana. She also does some work with (through? at?) the College of DuPage.

No matter what else, I’ll remember that Jerome rode his bicycle to the Tweetup from his job in Elmhurst. For those not familiar with the area, that’s about a 20-25 mile (32-40 kilometer) ride in traffic during rush hour. Wow, that’s all I can say.

I’ll try to keep Kim‘s short since I already know her and there’s too much to say here. A podcaster extraordinaire and unsung New/Social Media maven and Graphic Artist. Oh and my ride too.

Katie and Jeff
Katie and Jeff

Katie was the sole civilian (Non-Twitterer) at the Tweetup that night.

Jeff, among other things, has a startup called Edmodo and a really great camera that had me drooling as well.

Unfortunately, there were two people I never got the chance to say more than hello to:

Carolyn and Karen, who wrote and has pictures about the Tweetup on her blog in this post. I hope I get the chance to change that at the next Tweetup.

So I learned more than I thought in a short amount of time about people I knew nothing of previously and that’s what’s great about the Tweetups. People with a wide vareity of interests and a common tool for communicating those interests. Putting faces on Twitter names and finding out what’s behind them. If you have the chance, catch a Tweetup in your area or the next one in this area. Sounds like we’ll be doing them at least on a quarterly basis.

Thank you Wendy for organizing and inviting and making it all happen, I had a great time.

Written by With A Voice Like This · Categorized: Internet, Miscellaneous, News · Tagged: Fox River Tweetup, Geneva, Illinois, Twitter

Jun 05 2008

056 – Gone to that Big Tweetup?

This is a prerecording, please leave your name and number at the list of topics for this show:

  • The Fox River Tweetup
  • Update of 4-am and where we’re at
  • My fan mail to Dan Coulter at Blogs for Bands

There is no Listener’s Choice tonight, instead a tribute to Bo Diddley, one of the Fathers of Rock and Roll and capping it off, the song Bo Diddley Groove by Pierre Journel, found on the Podsafe Music Network.

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